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TODD MATTHEWS (Missing Pieces Host):  I’m Todd Matthews.  This is Missing Pieces.  Tonight we have Marcy Jo Dunekack; did I say that right, Marcy?

MARCY JO DUNEKACK (Guest):  Yes, you did.

TODD:  Okay.  Welcome to the show, it’s good to have you here.

MARCY:  Thank you.

TODD:  And you’re calling from Kansas?

MARCY:  Great Bend, Kansas.

TODD:  Icy cold there, I bet?

MARCY:  It is very cold.

TODD:  It is really cold here in Tennessee too.  And we’re actually going to talk about your brother’s case, right?

MARCY:  That’s correct.

TODD:  Eric Reeves.  And from what I understand you’ve not had a lot of luck getting his story out there.

MARCY:  No, we haven’t.  Since he’s passed on June 5th, 2005, we’ve had maybe two promising leads and they both turned out to be nothing.

TODD:  Okay, I’m going to tell you ahead of time, now I googled his name because I wanted to find the best website to pick at and I did find your website www.eric-reeves.memory-of.com, now I found that but there is not a lot of information out there.

MARCY:  No, there’s not.

TODD:  Hopefully we’ll be able to change that.  Tell us a little bit about…tell us who is Eric.

MARCY:  Eric was my baby brother.  He was 24 years old when he died; he was 2 weeks away from his 25th birthday.  Eric, to me, was more than just my brother, he was one of my best friends.  Every day he called me; there was never, ever a single day that went by that we didn’t have some kind of communication, either it was me going to his house, or him calling me.  He was a loving friend.  So many people remember him and talk about him and I hardly ever go somewhere without somebody mentioning his name to me.

TODD:  How long has he been gone?

MARCY:  He died June 5th, 2005, so it’s been about 2 ½ years now.

TODD:  Okay.  I’m looking at your website now and I often do that when I’m trying to find the right questions to ask you.  Is there something you feel like is missing in the story?

MARCY:  Yes, I do.  We’ve never…you know the cops have never gotten anything out there.

TODD:  Uh huh.

MARCY:  There is never…nobody has ever, to me, ever really went any further and done anything other than maybe a couple of anonymous tips that they’ve had.

TODD:  Uh huh.

MARCY:  We’re still looking for the guy or the gal truck driver.  The truck was a 1995 or newer Peterbilt semi and, obviously, it had the headlight crashed out of it, that’s what they found at the site where we found my brother’s body laying, and that’s all they really know to look for is a 1995 or newer Peterbilt semi.

TODD:  Well, okay, and I’m hoping that anybody reading or listening to this broadcast, will look at your website first, and the link will be on the same page that you’re actually finding this actual broadcast.  It’s real important that people read the story and it kind of fills in the gaps and we can kind of pick up from there.  Can you recount the night he died?  And I know it’s hard but you’re really desperate to get the information out there and it’s just imperative that you do what you can, Marcy, to help get that out there.

MARCY:  Okay.  June 4th, I had spent pretty much the whole day with my brother, my husband was gone, and Eric had called me about 12:30 that afternoon and I went to his house and we just kind of hung out.  Later on that night, I called him about 11 o’clock and he said that he had just woken up, and I said, “What are you going to do?” and he said, “I don’t know.”  I brought up a friend’s name and said, “Call her and see what she’s doing,” so he called her and about 1 o’clock in the morning, this would have been June 5th at 1 o’clock in the morning, he went out to a party place here in Great Bend; actually it was in Dundee, Kansas.

TODD:  Now him and his girlfriend broke up, sorry to interrupt you, but they broke up the same day, right?

MARCY:  They broke up two weeks before.

TODD:  Okay.

MARCY:  And so I told him to call, and this is just a mutual friend of ours, not a girlfriend or anybody, just a friend.  They had went and picked him up and took him out to…it’s called Diversion Dam, it’s where we all party at, and Eric had gotten a little drunk, and he took off walking, he got into it with one of his other friends, and he took off walking, and that was really the last time anybody had seen or heard from him.  So, I was not out there, and so the next day, which would have been June 5th, around noon, the gal who went and picked him up, called me and asked me if I had talked to him or heard from him or anything.  I hadn’t, so I just immediately had this feeling in my stomach that something was horribly wrong, so I went and told my Mom what was going on and I said that nobody has seen or heard from him or anything, and she said, “He’ll call, you know he got in with somebody or something.”

TODD:  Was that like him maybe to lose a little bit of contact and then kind of show up or is that very uncharacteristic?

MARCY:  It was very uncharacteristic.  He always had contact with somebody, either me or this girl that he called or my Mom, we always knew where he was and who he was with and stuff like that, so when nobody had heard from him, that’s why it was so…immediately I got the sick feeling in my stomach.  So around 6 o’clock that night, we decided that we were going to start looking.  We had called everybody that we knew.  (Marcy excuses herself to go take a drink.)

TODD:  That’s okay, we’re really laid back, it’s just like two old friends talking.

MARCY:  Okay.  And so about 6 o’clock that night we all started looking for him.  We kind of just started walking, it runs along the Arkansas River, is where the Diversion Dam comes out of, and so we all started walking the Arkansas River and just thought that maybe he had fell down and hit his head or broke his leg or something and couldn’t get up and we looked all that night.  I walked until 6 o’clock that morning and never came across anything, and where I had walked to was one mile from where we had found him.

TODD:  So you guys found him actually, right?

MARCY:  I didn’t find him.  Two of his friends had taken off on 4-wheelers…

TODD:  Uh huh.

MARCY:  …and they…he was actually laying on the side of the highway, where nobody looked when we had the State Troopers, the Barton County Sheriff, and we had a helicopter from Salina, Kansas, all that night before it turned dark.  We all looked that night and then they called a search to resume the next morning at 7 o’clock, and so we were all back out there at 7 o’clock that morning and he was found at 9:20 a.m. laying on the side of the highway, not even 2 feet from the side of the highway.  And he had laid out there for 36 hours and we never got to see him or anything after they found him because of the condition he was in.

TODD:  Uh huh.

MARCY:  And so there has never really been any closure at all.  You know we have no idea who did this.  We never got to him after they found his body, and so it’s just been nothing.

TODD:  Now how hard is that for not getting to see him?  I had a brother and sister that passed away and I didn’t get to see them, but mine was a totally different circumstance, how is that for you guys?

MARCY:  I think it’s harder because you can’t…it’s harder to accept the fact that they’re gone.

TODD:  Uh huh.

MARCY:  I mean other than not seeing him and not talking to him, you don’t…I don’t envision in my mind that he’s really gone.

TODD:  Isn’t funny how you actually have to see it to believe it?

MARCY:  It is.  It makes a world of difference.

TODD:  Would you do something differently if you could see?  Did they take photographs from the scene?

MARCY:  Yes, they did.

TODD:  Were you able to see those?

MARCY:  They told us that we could but they very, very strongly recommended that we not, because it’s the middle of summer time in Kansas…

TODD:  Yeah.

MARCY:  …and it’s 110 degrees out there.

TODD:  Now we really have to talk about some things that are really difficult; have you wanted to actually have to see that?  And when my grandfather passed away in 2004, he passed away in his sleep but I insisted that we see him or that I get to see him, and the medical examiner said, “No, you don’t want to,” and I said, “I’ve seen this kind of thing before, I just have to.  I have to.”  And I did, and I’ll never forget it, but it wasn’t shocking to me so much because it was him is why it was hard to do, but I’m glad I did, but it was hard.  Is this something you feel…?

MARCY:  On the 2-year anniversary of his death date, I had it in my mind that a couple of weeks before I told myself, “I’m going to go do this.  I’m going to the sheriff’s station and telling them that I want to see those pictures.”  And then when the day came, I couldn’t make myself do it, but I do want to see them so bad just to know that, in my mind, you know put it that that was my brother to make it real to me that he’s gone.

TODD:  I mean it’s not really that you doubt that it was him…

MARCY:  Right.

TODD:  …but there’s just something about it, and I understand that completely, I do, and I know that’s a hard conversation for you but do you feel, and I know this…somebody actually, do you think that it might have been accidental, he might have walked out in the path, which is obviously if somebody hit him and left the scene, that’s a bad thing, but what do you think really happened that night?

MARCY:  I mean he was…the autopsy said, the thing that they do to test your alcohol level said that he was intoxicated.  I mean the people out there said that he had been drinking, so it very well could have been accidental.

TODD:  Uh huh.

MARCY:  I mean he could have stepped in the path of the semi or the semi could have done it to him, and I don’t even know if this…I mean I know that this person knows that they did something to their truck.

TODD:  Or that they had hit a human being rather than an animal.

MARCY:  And see, I don’t even know that because he wasn’t…his body wasn’t tore up, they told us.

TODD:  Uh huh.

MARCY:  It wasn’t mangled like you would think it would be if you got hit by a semi; the whole thing was he was all torn up on the inside.

TODD:  Is it within the realm of possibility that somebody could have hit him and not known that it was a human being rather than an animal?

MARCY:  And I think that in my mind, I mean there’s a possibility of all of it, but in my mind I think, Eric didn’t weigh more than 140 pounds, he was a little guy…

TODD:  Uh huh.

MARCY:  …and so this guy may have thought…I think, a deer.  You know this guy might have thought, “Wow, that was a big deer.”

TODD:  Uh huh.

MARCY:  Maybe he got out of his truck and hollered and maybe thought he did hit a person, and then he thought, “Well, nobody is answering me,” or “I don’t see nobody laying around.”  We didn’t see him and we looked for 36 hours and we didn’t see him, and this happened between 2:30 and 3:30 in the morning.

TODD:  Now, if somebody is out there and they’re thinking back, “Could that had been me?” now what route were they taking?  Kind of describe the route and the exact time period so that that person, we can actually describe it to that person in case they did think, “You know I think I did hit an animal about that time; maybe I did do it.”

MARCY:  Okay, it was on Highway 56.

TODD:  Uh huh.

MARCY:  It would have been right around they’re just really tiny towns, Dundee and Radium, I mean they’re real tiny towns…you see a sign and then the town is gone.

TODD:  I live in a tiny town; I know exactly what you’re talking about.  We’re in the South here, and you just blink your eye and you miss them.

MARCY:  Uh huh.  And so then he would have had to have been going east; he or she would have had to have been heading east on Highway 56, like towards Great Bend from Dodge City, coming from Colorado, maybe coming from Oklahoma, they would have had to go through Great Bend, and then if they had taken the Interstate, they would have hit either Ellsworth or Russell.

TODD:  Uh huh.
MARCY:  So those are some routes that they would have taken.  If not, if they stayed on Highway 56 and went through Hutchinson, Kansas, which is the next big city from Great Bend, but it was on Highway 56 right around Dundee and Radium, Kansas.

TODD:  Now aside from the actual person that hit him, you know, somebody hit him, that’s no doubt, do you think there is any foul play on the other side?  Do you think there is any possibility that he could have been pushed?  Do you really feel like it was an accident?

MARCY:  I feel that it was an accident because of one of the girls that I talked about in the beginning, she was out there, and they had a relationship like me and my brother did and they were very close…

TODD:  Uh huh.

MARCY:  …and I don’t think she would have let something like that go on.

TODD:  Now, I’ve got another question for you and I know this sounds like a difficult one, would this have been something that he would have done on purpose?  Just to clear it up, you know, just to actually clear it up because you know that’s going to pop into somebody’s mind.

MARCY:  Right.

TODD:  Would he have done this?

MARCY:  I mean there is that possibility, yes.  He had a best friend that was murdered February 21st of 2004, and he just never really healed from it and he was just distraught, I mean he was…so many days, he would just cry, and so yes, there is that possibility.

TODD:  Now his friend’s homicide, was that ever resolved?

MARCY:  Yes, that was resolved.  It was resolved after Eric was dead, though.

TODD:  Okay.  So we’ll try to, if you have a link to that information to news media to that particular case, we’ll try to insert it here inside the transcription of this episode so that people will know what we’re talking about.

MARCY:  Okay.  I don’t have the link with me right now.

TODD:  We can get that later, that’s no problem.

MARCY:  Okay.

TODD:  Now, I know what you’re going through with this because I know, what would you like to see happen?  Exactly what is your best-case scenario with this?  What would you like to find out?

MARCY:  I want somebody to come forward to say, you know, “Yes, we did this.  We were at this place and time.”  I don’t necessarily want to see this person spend the rest of their life in prison…

TODD:  Uh huh.

MARCY:  …I don’t think that that’s going to resolve the case because I just don’t think that a person could drive off after they hit somebody and just drive away.

TODD:  Because an accident is not a crime.  If somebody actually hit somebody accidentally, that’s not a crime.  When you leave them there knowingly, that is a crime.

MARCY:  Right.

TODD:  That’s when a crime could have occurred.  How do you feel about that person?  Could you…if this was just news to them, they thought they hit an animal and they realize it and somebody is out there listening and says, “My God, it could have been me that done that.”  What would you say to that person if they’d come and said, “Marcy…”?

MARCY:  I’d just want them to know what their carelessness has done to me, to my family…

TODD:  Uh huh.

MARCY:  …to Eric’s friends, I mean it’s the hardest thing that you will ever deal with in your life is losing someone so close to you that you love, and not only that, at 24 years old.  I would like to meet this person.

TODD:  I mean somebody could have said, “You know, I thought I hit an animal back at that time period and I never saw anything, but now that I’ve heard this episode, I realize now maybe it was your brother that I hit.  It was a human being and I drove off and I didn’t realize it.”  Would you be able to forgive that person, if they are willing to come forward and close it for you?

MARCY:  I think if they were willing to come forward and tell me, “Yes, I think I did this,” I think I could forgive them because I doubt they did it on purpose.  You know if they didn’t do it on purpose or didn’t see him or whatever…

TODD:  Uh huh.

MARCY:  …I don’t have it in my heart to hate them.

TODD:  I mean because somebody could really be out there legitimately, completely innocent, because I’ve hit an animal before and have actually got out and couldn’t find the animal, but I know what I hit…

MARCY:  Right.

TODD:  …but it had run off, you know, but what if he really didn’t see it, and I hear you talking and I’m thinking, I’m afraid to tell them, now I’m afraid to tell them.

MARCY:  I think I could forgive him, I mean to close…to have that quote chapter of the book closed, would make it that much easier to deal with it.  To know that he wasn’t pushed or somebody didn’t purposely hit him and think they could get away with it, it would be a lot easier to close that chapter of the book.

TODD:  Now as far as law enforcement is concerned, how do they see this case?

MARCY:  They see it as a hit and run.

TODD:  They see it as a crime then rather than an accident?

MARCY:  Right.  I believe so.

TODD:  Do you think they are actively looking for leads or just maybe following up on tips that come in?

MARCY:  I don’t think anymore today that they are actively doing anything.

TODD:  Uh huh.

MARCY:  I mean, if they got a tip, they’re going to follow up on it, but my Dad tries to keep in touch with Dave Peydon, who is working Eric’s case; he tries to keep in touch with him as much as he can.  For the most part, the sheriff has done a pretty good job on the leads that they have, it’s just nothing has ever panned out.

TODD:  Obviously when this damage occurred to this truck, somebody had to fix it.

MARCY:  Right.  It would have had to have been fixed.

TODD:  What about any…and I know sometimes this is impossible, but a reward type situation, is that something that if it was in your ability to do so, would you see it as an asset?  Do you think it would actually help?

MARCY:  I never really thought about that, but maybe it would.  I mean maybe somebody does know something and they think, “I’m not going to get involved in this,” but if there’s a reward they might say, “Hey, we fixed a truck on this date.”

TODD:  Uh huh.

MARCY:  So maybe a reward would be an incentive.

TODD:  And unfortunately, usually in situations like this, it’s somebody that is not able to do so…

MARCY:  Exactly.

TODD:  …to provide a reward.  Maybe that’s something that you need to think about, you know, if it’s possible because you’ve went through a lot in the past few years.

MARCY:  Right, that is something we maybe need to think about.

TODD:  It couldn’t hurt.  I think, you know we’ve talked about it on so many other shows in the past, people live from event to event, hoping for…they might call the police once a week to see, “Okay, have you heard anything?”  And they find out, “No, we haven’t heard anything,” and they’re waiting until the next week that they’re going to call them back and have that same conversation over and over and over, and pretty soon you’ve lived many years having the same conversation or you’re going to try to do something.  Now you took your case online and you built a website and you’ve done a really good job of doing that; has that helped you?

MARCY:  We have had nothing from the ‘memory-of’ website.

TODD:  But building that website, do you feel like you’ve done something to honor his memory?

MARCY:  Yes, I do.  It is…I go on there every single day and light a candle because it makes me feel like I can still communicate with him.

TODD:  Uh huh.

MARCY:  And mentally it helps me a lot, just to be able to go on there and look at the pictures of him and see a picture of me and him and just remember all the memories, and every day I’m on it.

TODD:  So that’s a good thing as long as you have something that makes your life easier after this.  So you’ve had some memorial services and candlelight vigils?

MARCY:  Yes, every year on the date of his death we do…at the cemetery where he is buried, we usually do a balloon release.

TODD:  And the difference is now, you know I have two siblings that have died, they died prematurely but it was natural causes, I’ll never forget them, there’s not a day goes by that I don’t think about them, but there are no vigils, there is nothing like that because I know what happened.

MARCY:  Right.

TODD:  And that makes a big difference obviously; it doesn’t make me love them any less, but I have the closure because I know obviously it was in God’s plans that that be that way.

MARCY:  Right.

TODD:  But you’ve got that gap there and there’s a little bit of a problem.  Now the candlelight vigils, how do they make you feel when you actually get to do those?

MARCY:  That, mentally, I don’t know if it’s because it’s on the day or what, but it’s hard.  I haven’t went through…the whole month of June for the past 2 years has just been hell.

TODD:  Uh huh.

MARCY:  You know I’m so depressed and I don’t know if it’s his birthday and his death date, and the whole month is just a horrible month, and the balloon releases that we do on his death date are hard, hard, hard.

TODD:  Now how do you see yourself five years from now, are you still going to be doing that?

MARCY:  Having a candlelight vigil or a balloon release for him?

TODD:  Yeah.

MARCY:  Yes.

TODD:  When do you see as the time to stop?  If you got somebody that actually came forward and said, “My God, I did it.  I didn’t know that I did it,” or however it becomes resolved, is that a time where you can say, “Okay, now I can stop and go ahead and live my life.”

MARCY:  Maybe.

TODD:  And close it; close that chapter. 

MARCY:  I don’t know.

TODD:  It’s a lot to think about, I know it is.

MARCY:  I don’t know when I’ll be able to kind of go on with it and just accept it, I mean I’ve accepted it, but I haven’t…

TODD:  …dealt with it really.

MARCY:  Yeah.

TODD:  It’s hard to think that far ahead, you know when you’re going a day at a time.

MARCY:  And that’s the way I have to do it; one day at a time.

TODD:  Now what do you think that your brother would say if he could see for a minute what you are going through on a daily basis?  What do you think he would think?

MARCY:  He would say, “Marcy, be happy.”  I know he knows how I feel right because of when his best friend died…

TODD:  Uh huh.

MARCY:  …and I think he would say, “Don’t forget about me but go on with your life.  Be happy, because that’s what I want you to do.  I don’t want you to sit around and cry.  I don’t want you to be depressed.  You can come to the cemetery like you do and talk to me, but don’t dwell on this for the rest of your life.”

TODD:  Can you do that?

MARCY:  I am better now than even 6 months ago…

TODD:  Uh huh.

MARCY:  …because I’ve finally told Eric, “Okay, I’m just going to let you be at peace because you deserve that.”  Eric lived a long, rough life for his 24 years.

TODD:  Uh huh.

MARCY:  And, for him, I will let go, but I won’t forget, and I will never ever let people forget about him.

TODD:  Because you have to find that spot; that’s a spot that you’re going to have to find where you can…because if I were him, I would be so proud that you have done everything that you’ve done.  Look at these things that you’ve tried to do in his memory, and to try to find somebody, but just like you said, and you know it, I would want you to be happy.  I’d want you to be very happy.  I’d want you to live a full life, I would, you know, but I think you can still do that and still do what you can.  You know there’s got to be a point where you feel like, “I’ve done all that I can do.”  You know you can’t perform a miracle…

MARCY:  Right.

TODD:  …and God has his time when dealing with things and eventually, no matter what happens here on Earth, it’s going to be dealt with eventually one day anyway.  We know that.

MARCY:  I think that too.  I think, if this person doesn’t know…

TODD:  Uh huh.

MARCY:  …that they will when they get there, and then they’ll think, “Oh my God, I’ve done something horrible,” but you can forgive; you can’t forget but you can forgive.

TODD:  Now, do you have kids?

MARCY:  No, I do not.

TODD:  Okay, you don’t have any of your own, huh?

MARCY:  No.  Eric was like my baby.

TODD:  Yeah, I can see that.

MARCY:  Maybe a little too much and that’s why it’s so, so hard.

TODD:  Of course, I’m never suggesting that you forget him, because I’ll never forget mine, and I think people that know me think I dwell too much on them because I do a lot of things that I try to do in this whole world because I think about them and I think, “Well, I wish things were different for a lot of people.”  But I know for a fact that if I could decide and if you could decide, you would not want him living what you’re living.  Would you want him living what you’re living?

MARCY:  Would I want him living what I’m living?

TODD:  Yeah.  If you could trade places with him, would you want him to be in the mental state that you’re in?

MARCY:  No, I wouldn’t.  I wouldn’t wish that upon anybody.

TODD:  So we have to find a way to get you to a spot where you realize, “I’ve done all I can do.  I’m going to put it in the hands of faith and say now I’ve got to be happy, and I’m going to be happy for him.”

MARCY:  And that, Eric being up there with his best friend…

TODD:  Uh huh.

MARCY:  …it was harder for me, and this may sound horrible, it was harder for me to see Eric hurt so bad when his best friend was killed, than it was for me to bury him.

TODD:  I can see that.  I can truly believe that.  That makes sense.

MARCY:  He hurt so bad when his best friend died, there was not a thing in the world that I could do to ease his pain, and it hurt me so…it ripped my heart out to see him standing there at his friend’s casket and them getting ready to drop it into the ground, and Eric…oh, it just killed me.  I can’t even describe the pain, but it killed me.

TODD:  It’s hard to see a loved one in pain.  It is.  There’s nothing…

MARCY:  It is.

TODD:  My wife just had minor surgery this past week, and it’s hurt her quite a bit and it’s natural to be in pain after the surgery she had, but still it’s hard and you think, “Boy, I wish there was something I could do to take that pain away.”

MARCY:  Uh huh.  And there’s nothing.  And that’s why I say that and when he passed on, I thought, “Well at least he’s there with Darren,” and that has been a huge…it helped so much to know that they’re together and that Eric got to be with him because it was like he couldn’t go on without him.

TODD:  You just really need to know what happened that night.  I think a lot of it is you don’t know whether he made a conscience decision or it was an accident or what.  You don’t really know exactly what choice ended his life.

MARCY:  Right.

TODD:  I know that’s hard.  You know I know what happened to my siblings; I know exactly what happened to them and it was nothing that nobody could have done so I can live with it because I know there was nothing no human being could have done.  It was completely out of our hands, so I can say, “Ah, it will hurt forever, but I can live with it, because I have to.”

MARCY:  Right.  And I do not think that Eric…I don’t think that he chose to take his own life just because of the person that he was, and he always saw that as the easy way out, and he called it other things than the easy way out.

TODD:  I can imagine what he would have called it otherwise, but…

MARCY:  He talked about that and we’ve had conversations about it and he said, “Never, never could I do that to my family.”  He said, “I know how bad I hurt and I couldn’t do that to my family.”

TODD:  Pain sometimes blurs that, you know, you make a poor judgment at the wrong time, and it’s hard to…you just can’t undo it, and you thought, “Wow, I really made a bad choice,” and it’s too late when your life is gone, it’s too late, it’s too late.  I think you’ve done so much for him; you really have.

MARCY:  And that’s to the point where I found you as I thought I can’t just sit here and nothing trying to be done about this, I mean I can’t…what else is there that I can do to try to find this person that hit him?

TODD:  Well we can document the data.  You know when you put something on the Internet and the website like we’re doing with Missing Pieces and what you’ve done with your website, we’re creating a time capsule.  Because when this episode is out there, we have some great people that transcribe these episodes and pretty much…there’s one in particular that does a lot of them and she remains anonymous; she loves to do them and I think she gets a big blessing out of doing them because she is just so enthusiastic about being able to do it and she knows that what she’s doing is helping people.  That text will be out there permanently; it’ll last longer than you and I will, I promise you that because the Internet is not going anywhere, it’s going to be here but at least people will know what happened now and then and tomorrow, and hopefully it will matter.  You know if we don’t find out what happened that night, at least somebody will know what it did to you.

MARCY:  Right.

TODD:  And hopefully they’ll read on after tonight and they’ll see how your life might have changed and you were able to make positive things come from it and find a positive way, and you were able to heal and do whatever you can to make yourself be that way and maybe somebody sitting in your shoes can say, “If she can do it, I can do.”

MARCY:  That’s right.

TODD:  So that’s what I think, that’s what needs to be your goal.  I mean you’re not giving up, you’ve got to be happy too, and I think you have to be happy for yourself, and for him.

MARCY:  Uh huh.

TODD:  You’ve got to; you have no choice.

MARCY:  I agree.

TODD:  So hopefully we can do that, and we’ll talk about the reward situation, even if it’s not much, is it worth $100, $200?

MARCY:  Right.

TODD:  I mean there’s a starting place somewhere, so we can talk about that and you can think about that and you’ll get feedback probably from this show.  You’ll get people; I’m hoping that people will look at your websites and sign your guestbook and send you a note and send you some kind of a message to help you have a positive start on the next part of your life.

MARCY:  That’s great, and anybody out there who wants to light a candle on his site or anything, it’s always appreciated, just to know that somebody is thinking of us.

TODD:  It’s a good thing to…everybody is going to lose somebody; we’re all going to cross that bridge, and we’re all going to cross it ourselves as well, there’s just no doubt about it.  It’s just so hard when life is cut short; anything less than a natural cause is hard to accept.

MARCY:  That’s right.

TODD:  There’s just no way to accept it, and people have to do this every day, but when you don’t really know exactly what happened, that makes it that much harder.

MARCY:  It does.

TODD:  Well we’ll do what we can.  We’ll transcribe this and if nothing else, at the very least, we will have the time capsule so that people will know what happened here and now.

MARCY:  All right.

TODD:  So it’s not a bad thing; it might not be exactly what you do need, but at least it’s one of the things you need.

MARCY:  Anything helps.

TODD:  So we will try to do that.  So we’re going to say goodnight to our audience now and we’ll talk to Marcy just a few more minutes, but we’ll say goodnight to everybody and we’ll be back on again next week with another guest, and I think Marcy will be our friend for a very long time.

MARCY:  Thank you.

TODD:  All right.  Goodnight, everybody.

MARCY:  Goodnight.

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Guest: Marcy Jo Dunekack
Sister of "Eric Reeves"
Aired: January 22, 2008
Hit and Run Accident Leaves Family Devastated
Special Thanks to
with www.whokilledtheresa.blogspot.com
for transcribing this episode!