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TODD MATTHEWS (Missing Pieces Host):  Welcome to Missing Pieces.  I’m Todd Matthews and tonight we have Carolyn Johnson.  Welcome Carolyn.

CAROLYN JOHNSON (Guest):  Hello.  How are you?

TODD:  I’m great.  You are the mother of missing, Clinton Nelson, and it’s been a couple of years now, right?

CAROLYN:  Since he went missing, it’s been 10 months.

TODD:  Wow.  Carolyn is actually on a cell phone tonight, we are multi-tasking, trying to get a lot of things put into a certain period of time so we might have a little difficulty hearing her so I’ll ask her to speak up a few times during the interview.  We’ve got a whole hour; are you going to drive for an hour?

CAROLYN:  Pretty close to it, yes.

TODD:  Okay.  What can you tell us about when Clinton went missing?

CAROLYN:  Well, Clinton moved to Louisiana around March or April of 2006, he moved down there to spend some time with his biological father and get to know him better.  He’d gotten a job on an oilrig and was doing really well.  He was at a friend’s house for a party and had called my cousin for a ride, but she was not able to come and get him and his car was broken down.  There have been a couple versions of what actually transpired next.  One of them is that he left the house walking at approximately 8:30 p.m. and has not been seen or heard from since.

TODD:  But he used to live with you in your area?

CAROLYN:  Yes, he had lived in South Dakota since he was a year old and had lived here until he was 20 years old.  This is where he was raised and this is his home, but he was at that age where he was trying to figure out who he was and how he fit in the world and felt like he needed to get to know his father.

TODD:  So he was sort of in an alien environment there, I’d say.

CAROLYN:  In a what?

TODD:  In an alien environment, he was in an area that just wasn’t home.

CAROLYN:  Yes.  He had talked about how different things were down there and he had talked a little bit about being homesick but with Clinton being homesick meant he missed his friends and family here, but he was a very adaptable person as far as being able to get along with everybody and was one of those people that would just do anything for anyone.

TODD:  He was last seen wearing blue jeans, black T-shirt, black knit hat, red and white tennis shoes and round, gold glasses.  Now I’ve seen a lot of pictures of Clinton, he actually has many different appearances; you almost couldn’t see this as the same person.

CAROLYN:  Definitely.  He had been wearing his hair longer for quite some time prior to moving to Louisiana, and when he got the job on the oilrig, the supervisor on the oilrig said that that wasn’t going to cut it and he needed to get his hair cut, so he got it cut immediately and looked like a totally different person.  When his hair was longer, his friends and family used to tease him and tell him that he looked like a blonde diva, but when his hair is short, he just looks like your average American boy.

TODD:  He does, he looks like four totally different people, it’s just unreal.


TODD:  Which Clinton is the one you know the most?

CAROLYN:  Excuse me?

TODD:  Which face do you know the most…that you recognize as Clinton?

CAROLYN:  I actually identify him more with his hair a little bit longer.  He liked having a moustache and a kind of little goatee.  It fits his personality, he’s a person that’s kind of a jokester and likes to have a good time and play games and do imitations and that kind of thing, and that’s kind of who I identify him with.  I never had a problem with his long hair as long as kept it trimmed neatly and didn’t let it go unclean or that kind of thing, which was never a problem with Clinton.  He was always a person that would take two or three showers a day just to make sure that he was clean.

TODD:  So he did have cousins there and obviously he hadn’t had a lot of time to spend with his cousins at this point?

CAROLYN:  No, other than my grandmother and my father, who passed away about a year ago, he hadn’t spent a lot of time down in the Louisiana area.  The cousin that he had called for a ride was actually my cousin, and the first time that he had spent any time with her, was arriving this time.  He had a stepsister and a stepbrother that he was fairly close to, I think, and had spent some time with off and on throughout the years, but only for a couple days here and a couple days there about once a year or every other year.  So he really didn’t know a whole lot of people.

TODD:  Had he been getting along with his cousins really well?  Did he seem to be adapting to life with them?

CAROLYN:  Yeah, I know that he had been spending some time with my cousin and he seemed like he was doing really well.  He loved his job, he was very proud of himself.  I was hearing all the things that a mother wants to hear, you know that he was doing well, that he was staying out of trouble, he was…you know I heard the signs of maturity where he could look at a situation and see both sides of the situation and not jump to, “Well that person is wrong because of something,” he was able to reason things out and I had just seen a lot of growth and I could hear in his voice that he was proud of getting to know that side of his family and he was starting to feel a sense of identity and belonging that I think he’d been missing.

TODD:  So all these changes were basically very positive changes; nothing to the negative, nothing like, “I think I’ve made a mistake,” it was all something like you felt he wanted to happen.

CAROLYN:  Yeah, it was something that he wanted.  He was having a few problems with his stepmother where he didn’t always get along with her, but other than that, there really weren’t any problems that I was aware of.

TODD:  And you know the stepparent thing is very normal.  I have a few nieces and nephews on my wife’s side and there are a few step-relatives and it’s difficult; they all go through that.  It’s just hard trying to make that adjustment, trying to share that individual.

CAROLYN:  Exactly.

TODD:  So you’ve done the normal things now, you’ve actually checked his cell phone and there are no incoming or outgoing calls to his cell phone.  Did you actually have his cell phone or just checking his cell phone records?

CAROLYN:  I actually did not check it; law enforcement checked it.

TODD:  Okay.

CAROLYN:  His father had gotten him the cell phone shortly after he had gotten down there, so I didn’t have access to the records, but law enforcement pulled the records but unfortunately they did not pull the tower records, but the cell phone records, from my conversation with law enforcement, indicated that the last call was on September 1st, 2006, probably around 10 o’clock.  The last person to speak to him was actually his father around 10 o’clock.  Prior to that, he had tried to call my cousin, and she was the last outgoing call, when he had called her for a ride.  After that night, other than us trying to call and find him for a while afterwards, there were no calls beyond that point.  He didn’t have any bank accounts, he had no credit cards, nothing at all on the cell phone.  It was like he just vanished.

TODD:  And you said that he had a $2,000 paycheck sitting at home, and he knew it was there and he would have needed that money if he was going to just take off.

CAROLYN:  Right.  Right.  And I had talked to him two days before this and I heard absolutely no indication of any reason why he would just want to walk away.  He was very proud of his job; he had just been told that they were probably going to be transferring him to an oilrig in Arkansas.  He said that they were building a new rig that he called the Cadillac of oilrigs and he thought that that was really exciting and it sounded like they expected him to be able to become a driller in probably a 3-year time period, which from my understanding is pretty quick considering that he was just learning the industry, but he was such a hard worker and was doing such a good job that they expected him to move up quickly and he was proud of that.

TODD:  Sounds like he was really trying to cut himself out a life and everything is just so positive, it’s so hard to believe that…because usually there is a sign, you know, some type of unhappiness or melancholy, something about a person if something is wrong, and usually a parent can pick up on it because you guys have had good communication and there’s just no indication of anything.


TODD:  Now how did his father handle this?  When he first went missing, how did you first know that something was wrong?

CAROLYN:  His father actually called me two days after he disappeared, so he called me on the 3rd and said that Clinton was missing and they didn’t know where he was at, and I said, “Well, what do you mean he’s missing?”  And he said, “Well, he was at this boy’s house on Friday for a party and he’s vanished.  Nobody knows where he’s at.”  I immediately started trying to call the boy that Clinton was last seen with and I had asked Jeff, Clinton’s father, if he talked to law enforcement, and he said that at that point, no.  He later tried to contact law enforcement, and law enforcement basically said that they weren’t going to take a report on it until he had not shown up for work and they usually like to give it at least a week to see if he would turn up.  We waited until Tuesday, which was when he was supposed to have been back at work, because they work one week on, one week off.  And when he didn’t show up for work on Tuesday, I ended up calling law enforcement and saying, “Look, there is something wrong,” and they finally took the report.  I still did not talk to a detective until the following Monday.  Jeff had called me and said that law enforcement was suspecting foul play and they were out searching the woods for a body.  I immediately called the Sheriff’s Office and they had a detective call me, who said, “I don’t have a clue what you’re talking about.  We don’t suspect foul play.  We think he’s probably at a friend’s house or shacked up with some girl, and he’ll turn up.”

TODD:  How did that confusion come up?  Did you ever track that down?

CAROLYN:  No, I still don’t know.

TODD:  That’s very conflicting stories.

CAROLYN:  Yes.  And there have been quite a few of those.  I don’t know what his father’s involvement is, if there is any, but there have been a few things that have either been misstatements or misunderstandings, or something that his father has said one thing and I found out later that it was totally different.  Because of that, we’re not actually speaking at this point, because I don’t know what, if any involvement, he or someone in his family has.

TODD:  Because two days is a long time, and I would probably be very upset if my ex had not called me and told me something in two days, I would probably be very upset, not indicating that that means that he had anything to do with this, but it just seems to have been taken lightly.

CAROLYN:  Right.  I was very upset about it and I was very frustrated.  I don’t know what to think at this point.  I know that his Dad is considered to be a suspect; by that I mean, law enforcement has said that they have not been able to clear him as a suspect.  I don’t know that that means he’s involved, but I know that there has definitely been some misinformation and things that I am very frustrated about.

TODD:  So primarily, because of inconclusive statements and actions that they’re not able to verify.

CAROLYN:  Correct.

TODD:  Okay.  Now you say that he’s diagnosed with having a heart condition?

CAROLYN:  Yes.  I actually did not know this until after Clinton had been missing for a while.  Clinton had been hurt on the oilrig and had ended up going to the emergency room, and at the time of his disappearance, he had stitches in his collarbone, three fractured ribs, and I believe his arm was injured.  And when he was injured, in the emergency room, they evidently…the doctor had found that he had some type of an irregularity with his heartbeat, and they wanted him to go in and see a doctor about it.  Clinton had not told me this so I wasn’t aware of it, but I did verify it through law enforcement that it does indicate that in the medical records the last time that Clinton was seen.

TODD:  Was this something that might have required a procedure, treatment or medicine?

CAROLYN:  I can’t really answer that at this point.  I don’t know for sure what Clinton was told and I don’t think that anybody has actually seen the medical records and knows actually what was said and what the irregularity was, because of HIPAA laws and compliance.  All we know is that there was some indication of some type of a problem.

TODD:  Hopefully you can get more data on that because that could be very important.  I can see law enforcement wanting to verify that he meets an appointment, which would be an appointment of going to work, because so many people they’re often gone.  I have a lot of friends that do the seven-day-on, seven-day-off thing, and it might be hard to locate them until time for work rolls around and everybody comes back to work and everybody shows up, so that makes a lot of sense that they did try to follow that to verify.

CAROLYN:  Right.

TODD:  Okay, so you say you’re not actually speaking to his biological father right now, so is that making it more difficult to do this, what you’re having to do?  You’re so far away.

CAROLYN:  Yes, it’s hard.  No matter how you look at it, it’s hard.  I’m not right there.  There are so many things that I feel like I would be doing if I were there.  I’ve already made three trips down there and I’m going to be making at least two more this summer.  All I can do is try to do as much as I can, but there are a lot of limitations because I can’t be right there.

TODD:  Now when you go down there, when you take a trip, what do you do?

CAROLYN:  Well the first time that I went down just after Clinton’s disappearance, it was actually a couple months after Clinton’s disappearance, in November, Texas Equusearch was doing a pretty major search for Clinton, and I went down thinking that I was going to help with that.  I don’t think that I was a whole lot of help with that, I wasn’t really allowed to get out there and search because they did not want me to be one of those that found Clinton.

TODD:  Uh huh.

CAROLYN:  But it’s mainly to help coordinate things, put things in place, you know doing whatever we can do to find Clinton, but it’s one of those things that I’m not exactly sure if I do the right things, but primarily trying to get the posters up, trying to get the word out, trying to get it into the media, talking to people.  I’ve spoken to the boy that Clinton was with the last day, and I say ‘boy’ but he’s a man, but he reminded me a lot of my son and I guess I still think of my son as a boy even though he’s technically a man.

TODD:  Oh, we all do, I’m sure.  That’s easy to do.  He’s a young man, like your son.

CAROLYN:  Excuse me?

TODD:  A young man, just like your son.

CAROLYN:  Correct.

TODD:  What about other children?  Do you have other children?

CAROLYN:  Yes, I have a 16-year-old daughter that lives with me and Clinton also has a sister from a previous marriage, so Clinton has two sisters, total.

TODD:  So I’m always interested to see how it affects the siblings, what has been their reaction to this?

CAROLYN:  It’s been really hard for them; both of them were very close to Clinton and where I would talk to Clinton one or two times a week, Clinton would talk to his sisters, sometimes two or three times a day.  They were all very close and both of them have had a really difficult time trying to figure out how to deal with this because we don’t really know what we’re dealing with.  I know that law enforcement believes that Clinton is dead, and I’ve tried talking to both girls so that they are prepared for that.  You know it’s hard thinking that your child or your brother may have met with foul play and that’s what the police believe has happened at this point.

TODD:  And so he just completely…they never had an idea, the sisters never saw anything at any point that they could construe as anything that would be leading up to this?

CAROLYN:  No.  No, absolutely nothing.

TODD:  Wow.  I’m cheating; I’m actually looking through your pages as we speak, so we can cover as much ground as possible as we do this.


TODD:  And you’re driving in a car so we’re having to work from your head.

CAROLYN:  I know a lot of it by heart.

TODD:  You do, you’re doing really well.  You’re doing really well.  So you’ve had to face the possibility that he could be dead.


TODD:  How do you prepare for something like that?  Mentally and physically, how do you make that preparation?

CAROLYN:  I don’t know if you really do.  You know it’s kind of weird because I think, from the beginning, I actually felt like something was wrong, and I think even before other people thought that Clinton was probably dead, and I actually have myself resigned to that, I guess.  Recently, I’ve flipped back and forth, and I don’t know if it’s because I’m hoping that he’s still out there some place, that he’s alive and that he can come home.  (Carolyn apologizes for crying.)

TODD:  That’s okay.  It’s understandable.  It’s hard to do this and this is a necessary evil of getting your story out, you have to talk about it a lot and I know it’s not easy.


TODD:  But you have to do it to make it happen, I know.

CAROLYN:  I know.

TODD:  You have some other media coming up in the near future.  It sounds positive, it sounds like you’ve got a good opportunity to get the word out.

CAROLYN:  We definitely hope so.  We’ve been working hard; we’ve been working with LaDonna Meredith from ‘Let’s Bring Them Home’ (Episode 36), and I’ve been working with Tim Miller and Cindy Wisdom from Texas Equusearch, they’ve all been very instrumental in trying to help get the word out nationwide, and helping with reward money or publicity, and I couldn’t do it without them and the many other friends that I’ve made because of Clinton’s disappearance.

TODD:  I know you’ve made some really good friends during this period.

CAROLYN:  Yes, definitely.

TODD:  Do you feel like there is a lot of support for people like you now that are in this situation?

CAROLYN:  Yeah, unfortunately, there are a lot of parents out there that are in the same boat as we are, you know I’ve met many people that their daughters mostly are missing, I’ve met sisters, I’ve met…unfortunately I’ve met too many people that have children or siblings that are missing.  Some of them have not found anything out in three years and some of them much longer than that.  I guess I’m just hoping that we’re not going to be one of them that have to wait for years on end to find out what has happened.

TODD:  It’s like meeting other people with the same mysterious disease.

CAROLYN:  Yes, and you bond in a way that I supposed people can’t imagine because you’re drawn together by the same questions and the same frustrations and the same hurts.  Many of these people have given me a lot of wisdom because they’ve already been through what I’m going through now so they’ve been able to give me pointers and advice, and send me to people that they may have already talked to or that they had to find the hard way.  I feel like some of these people have just been very key in hopefully getting the word out on a national level about my son.

TODD:  Well I think that they have been able to offer you a lot of shortcuts.


TODD:  Point out a lot of the pitfalls and a lot of the shortcuts so you get from Point A to Point B a lot quicker, it’s an amazing trip, I know.  Now what about the National Missing Persons Database, the DNA database, have you dealt with that?

CAROLYN:  A little bit.  I know that Clinton is listed with NCIC and CODIS.  The National Missing Persons Database is actually just in the process of getting up and running…

TODD:  Uh huh.

CAROLYN:  …and combining the two different sides of it; the missing person side and the DNA side of things, but hopefully that will be very key in the period of time to come to help others identify their kids and law enforcement and all the different resources bringing them together.

TODD:  Well there are a lot of things being done at this point in time, and it’s an interesting time in this field because of all these elements coming together, and a lot of it has been driven by people like you that keep asking these questions, ”Why?  I need to know, I need to know.”

CAROLYN:  That’s exactly it.  You know, many of these people, Gloria Denton, Kelly Jolkowski, Patty Vaughan’s sister, Barbara Kinsey, all of these people having been working very, very hard to try to get all of the resources together to not make it so difficult.  There are 6,000 unidentified people sitting in morgues across the United States when in a time of technology and DNA is such an easy thing to do now, there’s no reason for it.

TODD:  It’s inexcusable.

CAROLYN:  Right, and without these people fighting, and fighting hard, and having paid a very high price, none of this would be getting accomplished.  All of these people…

TODD:  You know I think more and more…

CAROLYN:  Go ahead.  Sorry.

TODD:  More and more people now are recognizing the ‘unidentifieds’ whereas before ‘the missing’ had really good representation because they had a family member, and I think a lot of these families members are also pointing at the unidentified and that’s something that a lot of people don’t want to think about, you know, “Could my loved one be among these people?” and I think more people are embracing that possibility because it is a ray or hope and it is a point of closure and if they are there, you certainly want to know.

CAROLYN:  Exactly.  Not that knowing that your loved one is passed is an easy thing, but I think it’s probably easier than not knowing, because you imagine probably a whole lot worse, when you don’t know.

TODD:  Yeah.  That actually is a good point in showing people how bad it is do have to go through this when you’re saying that the possibility is easier to know that somebody has passed away rather than to not know, that is describing some enormous pain.

CAROLYN:  A couple days it’s pretty bad.

TODD:  Oh wow.  Did you have any idea that this world existed, a year ago?

CAROLYN:  Not a clue.  I was completely oblivious to it.  It has only been since my son disappeared that I’ve delved into it and the really sad part about it is, my husband is in law enforcement, and I did not have a clue, and it’s so much more common than anybody realizes and I think sometimes, especially here in South Dakota, we’re pretty sheltered from that kind of stuff.  I guess that goes on in a lot of bigger cities and that kind of thing we don’t deal with it here, and it wasn’t until Clinton disappeared and I started delving into it on a national level in a search for my son, that I started realizing how many people are dealing with this day in and day out, and it’s horrifying.

TODD:  Were you surprised?

CAROLYN:  I was very surprised.  I…it’s…it’s insane, it’s just crazy to think that it’s as common as it is.

TODD:  You know something that is that painful, to not know, it’s just unreal to think that you don’t know, and you found out all of these cases are out there, and it was just overwhelming to you, but you also found all of these resources that also didn’t know existed, and a few years back, there was nothing, there was just very, very little, and any help that you could get was so rationed.  It was just so difficult to get anything, any type of help at all.

CAROLYN:  And I definitely believe that, I think in a lot of ways, I think that we’re almost lucky because there are unfortunately so many people that have been through it before us, that they’ve pointed us in the right directions and everybody that I’ve talked to has another piece of advice and another place to send me to check into some other resource.  I just really have to commend all of the people like you that are trying to get the word out about these missing people and their families.

TODD:  It looks like you’re going down the list and you’re making the right moves, I think you’re definitely checking every stop.  Now the reward…$12,500 reward; now exactly what are the terms of this reward?

CAROLYN:  The terms of the reward are based upon finding Clinton, as well as the arrest and conviction of the person or persons responsible for his disappearance if he met with foul play.  The reward is actually put up by my husband and myself, as well as my employer, and part of it is put up by Texas Equusearch.

TODD:  Now I think LaDonna Meredith has a unique way of offering a reward.  Is that something that you’re going to look at?

CAROLYN:  There has been some talk about it, I’m not exactly sure what is in the works yet but I think that they’re working out the different options and we’ll see what they come up with.  I know that they’ve got the ‘No Cops’ hotline up and running right now, so that if there are people that, for whatever reason, are not comfortable talking to law enforcement, they can call the ‘No Cops’ hotline.  I know that she is also trying to gather some information about…there have actually been a number of disappearances between the Shreveport, Louisiana and Houston, Texas area.  There have been media reports about that being dubbed ‘The Dead Zone’ and I think that she is exploring possibilities of Clinton possibly being one of those involved in whatever that situation may be.

TODD:  You know it’s amazing, every time I meet somebody like you, we all know the same people.


TODD:  You know these same names keep popping up over and over again in this world and all very good people I think you’re working with.

CAROLYN:  I agree wholeheartedly, I don’t know what I would do without any of them.  I consider them to be friends now as much as people that will hopefully be able to help me find my son.

TODD:  Okay, what about as far as media?  I know that you’re working on some national media right now and hopefully that will put more pressure on, now as far as local media, what type of help have you got so far?

CAROLYN:  It’s been hard.  The media in Louisiana has been pretty good about running stuff on Clinton.  The media right in my hometown has been pretty good on running stories on Clinton, but outside of those areas it’s been really, really difficult.  You know I commend the local news media for everything that they’ve been trying to do to help us find him.  Getting it out on a national level, I think is the key at this point.  There are not a lot of leads that have come in and I know that somebody out there somewhere, knows what has happened to my son and the media is the key to the whole thing and the key to bringing the people forward hopefully to tell us what has happened, and hopefully point us in the right direction.

TODD:  If I am the public, and I have a tip, who do I need to call?

CAROLYN:  Definitely the tip hotline on LaDonna’s website (Let’s Bring Them Home) at 1-866-479-5284, the Bossier Sheriff’s Office at 1-318-965-2203.  I am not opposed to people calling me directly, if they feel like they need to do that.  Texas Equusearch at 1-877-270-9500 is another one.  Somebody will either be able to take the information or if they don’t want to talk to anybody, they can call the tips hotline because it’s an automated system and they don’t have to specifically talk to anyone or talk to law enforcement.  Whatever they need to do to give us the information, all I ask is that they get us the information.

TODD:  And we’ll have all your contact information listed on your permanent archives for your case on Missing Pieces and the Bossier Sheriff’s Department is 318-965-2203 if anyone has any information that might help, and if we receive anything through the website we will certainly pass it on to whoever is the responsible person to get any data that we receive.  I’m looking around to see if there is anything else.  Is there anything that you want to add?  You know a lot of times you do a media interview, you have 2 minutes and you’ve got to get it all in, in 2 minutes, and I like to take a little time just to talk to people just to see how they’re feeling and hopefully something that comes across in your voice, somebody else is going to hear and maybe save them a little bit of anguish.  What have you got to say?

CAROLYN:  I think the tip hotline 1-866-479-LBTH (5284), I think that number will be real key to publicize as much as possible.

TODD:  Okay, it will be on the website.  It will be there.


TODD:  And understand something, we’ve talked about the possibility that Clinton might have passed away, you know for whatever reason, do you hold any hope that he might be alive?  That something just maybe snapped in his mind, something, is this still a hope and a possibility to you?

CAROLYN:  Yeah, and it’s probably going to be until I have proof that it’s not a possibility.

TODD:  One way or another.

CAROLYN:  I just hope and I pray that he’s out there somewhere.  I don’t know what happened that night, but I would give anything to find out that he’s still alive and that he can come home and that he’s okay and that I would be able to hug him.

TODD:  Well this is an incredible time.  I can imagine.  With this time period now, you know, it’s very possible that he can Google his own name and see or hear you.

CAROLYN:  Right.

TODD:  If you could speak to him, directly to him, this is your opportunity.  What do you want to say to him if he is alive and he can hear you?  Tell him what you need for him to hear.

CAROLYN:  Clinton, I love you.  I want you to come home.  Whatever has happened, we will work through it together, just like we have always done.  Your sisters miss you.  Ross misses you.  You’ve got a lot of friends around here that would give anything to see you again and to love you again.  We just want you back.

TODD:  I hope that will help.  I wish there was more we could do other than offer you support.  We want to offer you any support that we can.  There are a lot of people that do.  I wish we could shorten it for you and make it a lot easier.

CAROLYN:  Thank you.  Yes.  This is what we have to go through.  We have to go through it, there’s a reason for that and I believe that and I know that.

TODD:  I think people need to share it with you.  You know maybe they could be somebody like you that didn’t know.  That anybody that doesn’t know, they can hear you talk tonight and hear some of the other people that we’ve interviewed, if you don’t know after you hear that, you know, it’s going to take all of us, even those that do not have a missing loved one, we have a responsibility.  I don’t have a direct missing loved one, I’ve worked in the field, but I don’t have one, but I feel a responsibility.  I think we all have a responsibility to prevent it.  Nobody should ever have to go through what you’re going through.

CAROLYN:  I agree.  I agree wholeheartedly.  Everybody needs to be aware of their surroundings and things that are going on and they need to watch for those that are missing.  The more aware you are, the better off we’re all going to be.

TODD:  Do you feel like this is good therapy for you to actually work in this and try to improve the situation, even if it doesn’t help you?  Even if you don’t get your closure that you so seek, do you feel like you’re helping yourself and helping the cause and helping the memory of your own child by helping prevent?

CAROLYN:  I hope so.  I’m not going to give up.  I’m…even if this doesn’t find Clinton, I’m going to keep looking for Clinton until I know what has happened to him, and if that means that I don’t know until I die, then I’ll die trying.

TODD:  So be it.

CAROLYN:  Yes, but this is something now that I know that I don’t think I’ll ever be able to completely walk away from it.  Even if we find out what has happened to Clinton, there are so many other families in this, so many people out there hurting and they need all the help they can get, especially in the first months after a loved one disappears, you are so unprepared and you are so lost that anybody that could sit there and just listen, is a blessing.

TODD:  And it’s not something always that people can make a donation; it’s not like you make a donation to the National Center and you’ve done your part, you know, sometimes you have to be physically involved in it, and you have to follow the stories and be aware, and ask the local schools if they will run a prevention program.  Look for a program and suggest it to the people at the school.  You know the more the children know growing up, the better prepared they’re going to be as a child and as an adult.  I think we can lick this problem, I really do, I think we can really minimize it greatly by being aware and teaching.

CAROLYN:  It’s definitely a start to getting rid of this problem.

TODD:  It’s an itch we have to scratch, there’s no doubt about it, we must do something, or we’re all as guilty for just standing by.  You know if we’re not doing something to help, we’re standing by and allowing it.

CAROLYN:  Right.

TODD:  So I think you’re doing a lot of good things.  You’re definitely not crawled back in the corner and just letting your world fall apart, you’re definitely holding your world together.  You’re doing a really good job.

CAROLYN:  I have to keep looking for my son and I don’t think my son would expect anything less of me; he knows that I would never give up on him.

TODD:  Well I hope to have you back; I want to have you back again.  We want all of our guests back again, because you’re not just guests, you’re family now, but we hope to have you back with an update.  We will publish updates on your webpage for you.  It will be there for as long as I’m able to be alive and make it be there, it will be there for you.

CAROLYN:  Thank you very much.  I appreciate everything you are doing.

TODD:  Do you want to make a statement?  Anything that you want echoed to the public, and there are media outlets that do monitor these sites and I know they’re hearing it and I know they’re seeing it.


TODD:  So it’s been good talking to you and I’m sorry it’s hard but it’s no different than any other day, I have a feeling.


TODD:  Good luck on your upcoming interviews.  I know you’ve got some good things coming up that are really going to be positive, and we will post them on your page and make sure that as many people see it as possible.

CAROLYN:  Okay, sounds like a plan and thank you very much.

TODD:  We’ll say goodnight to our guests and you and I will talk for just a little bit longer and good luck to everybody.  Goodnight.

Case Information:
Missing Since:  September 01, 2006
Last Known Location:  Haughton, Louisiana
Date of Birth:  August 9, 1985
Race:  White
Hair:  Blonde
Eyes:  Blue
Height: 6' 1"
Weight:  160 pounds
Distinguishing Characteristics:   Glasses with round silver wire frames.  Faint scars from dog bite over right eyebrow onto eye lid, corner of right eye, right temple, and lower jaw line, scar from recent stitches on left collarbone, recently fractured three left ribs and right arm, facial hair on chin and lip, previously fractured legs.
Clothing: Black "ECKO" brand T-shirt, blue jeans, black knit cap, new white "DC" athletic shoes with red trim, new black leather belt, white anklet socks with gray bottoms.

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Clinton Left A Friend's Home
And Has Never Been Heard From Again
Guest: Carolyn Johnson
Mother of missing "Clinton Nelson"
Aired: July 10, 2007
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